Why God Is Impossible

I do not believe in God: and I firmly believe that the characteristics assigned to God demonstrate that He is impossible.
I am not representative of non-believers, only of myself. Perhaps I am wrong, in which case I invite you to look at the disproof linked to below.

May 30

What Can We Tell About God?

For a moment, let’s accept some of the various arguments for the existence of God. Unlikely, frankly, but we will. What can we tell about this theoretical deity?
This is in essence natural theology: ignoring scripture and revelation, to see what the universe and linked arguments say about the character of God. 
Let’s start off with a joke, to demonstrate the point:

A Mathematician, a Physicist, and an astronomer were travelling north by train. They had just crossed the border into Scotland, when the Astronomer looked out of the window and saw a single black sheep in the middle of a field. “All Scottish sheep are black,” he remarked.
“No, my friend,” replied the Physicist, “Some Scottish sheep are black.”
At which point the Mathematician looked up from his paper and glanced out the window. After a few second’s thought he said blandly: “In Scotland, there exists at least one field, in which there exists at least one sheep, at least one side of which is black.” 

Or, to put it more concisely: don’t overestimate what the information available says. 

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wisdomofscripture:

goddisproven:

  1. How do you know those revelations are true? (The point of the original post). 
  2. How do you know natural theology gives an accurate picture? (Partly from the original post, but I’m considering a post on natural theology as a whole soon). 

We know the revelations are true because they were authenticated by fulfilment of prophecy and miracles, Particularly the resurrection.

We know natural theology is sound because natural theology is spoken of in the already validated scriptures.

Completely circular. Read the original post.


wisdomofscripture:

Why God Is Impossible: One Cannot Know the Mind of God

goddisproven:

We know what is revealed to us, we don’t know what isn’t revealed to us. Through Scripture and Natural Theology.

  1. How do you know those revelations are true? (The point of the original post). 
  2. How do you know natural theology gives an accurate picture? (Partly from the original post, but I’m considering a post on natural theology as a whole soon). 

One Cannot Know the Mind of God

This is a common response to questions on motive, or incongruencies in God’s actions. 
It would be fair enough: but moments later, the people who say this can often be found doing the exact same thing: professing to know the mind of God.

God is good; God wants all to be saved… Anything like that, where does it come from? God said it? how do you know it was true? With humans, we expect truthfulness, honesty: but if we cannot know the mind of God, we cannot know either way. 
And those that say God is good, how do you know that? And even if we can grant that principle (as many take it as the definition of God, admittedly with very little reason), you still know the mind of God to the degree that you expect:

  1. God’s definition of good to be the same as ours (for example: lying vs truthtelling)
  2. Telling humans the truth is in fact good (not necessarily, especially under Divine Command Theory)

Among other things. 

No matter where you claim to get this knowledge from, how are you assured that it’s genuine?
Not knowing the mind of God would be a fair enough response and, assuming there is a deity, may well be true: but then, why do those that say this argument equally expect to know the mind of God? 


May 29
thelastatheist:

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Actually this is pretty funny, one it seems like a rehash of the Ad Populum fallacy. Second he forgets to mention that not all those copies are the same, part of them show that pesky little fact christians waste so much time bullshiting around, that not all copies say the same thing, or in other words, they show the editing done by humans, on their own fictional work. Turns out it was pretty normal at the time for the next generation edit the previous generation works, by embellishing it.
We don’t even know who were the authors of the books of the new testament. But we know due to textual references and style, that the authorship of at least most of them, was forged. It’s obvious that most of the books attributed to Peter were not written by the same person. If we get into the gospels, well… then we have buck loads of fun. Also interesting that the further back you go in time, the less real and more mythical the character of named Jesus becomes. To a point were he becomes entirely part of fantasy. Most christians don’t have a clue what their ancient counterparts believed. Modern christianity was only born after the 4th century.
Not to mention that the author of Matthew seems to only have had access to the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Torah), most likely because he couldn’t read Aramaic. We know this because he left marks of the mistranslation of the Septuagint. Read Matthew 21:7, where Jesus supposedly entered Jerusalem in two donkeys. It’s also very interesting for me that right under the New Testament in the table is Homer’s Iliad. A book that the author of Mark heavily inspired his work of fiction on.

thelastatheist:

Actually this is pretty funny, one it seems like a rehash of the Ad Populum fallacy. Second he forgets to mention that not all those copies are the same, part of them show that pesky little fact christians waste so much time bullshiting around, that not all copies say the same thing, or in other words, they show the editing done by humans, on their own fictional work. Turns out it was pretty normal at the time for the next generation edit the previous generation works, by embellishing it.

We don’t even know who were the authors of the books of the new testament. But we know due to textual references and style, that the authorship of at least most of them, was forged. It’s obvious that most of the books attributed to Peter were not written by the same person. If we get into the gospels, well… then we have buck loads of fun. Also interesting that the further back you go in time, the less real and more mythical the character of named Jesus becomes. To a point were he becomes entirely part of fantasy. Most christians don’t have a clue what their ancient counterparts believed. Modern christianity was only born after the 4th century.

Not to mention that the author of Matthew seems to only have had access to the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Torah), most likely because he couldn’t read Aramaic. We know this because he left marks of the mistranslation of the Septuagint. Read Matthew 21:7, where Jesus supposedly entered Jerusalem in two donkeys. It’s also very interesting for me that right under the New Testament in the table is Homer’s Iliad. A book that the author of Mark heavily inspired his work of fiction on.


In what way, shape or form does this speak of reliability? The second text on that list demonstrates that quite clearly: the Iliad is not a reliable historical document unless you contend that the Gods of Mount Olympus played a part in the Trojan War. It was a popular text: lots of people cared about it enough to preserve and copy it. We already know this much. But by the simple fact that the Bible has known historical errors in, and (by the admission of many believers), is not intended as a historical record at all, what reason turns popularity into reliability?

In what way, shape or form does this speak of reliability? The second text on that list demonstrates that quite clearly: the Iliad is not a reliable historical document unless you contend that the Gods of Mount Olympus played a part in the Trojan War. 
It was a popular text: lots of people cared about it enough to preserve and copy it. We already know this much. 
But by the simple fact that the Bible has known historical errors in, and (by the admission of many believers), is not intended as a historical record at all, what reason turns popularity into reliability?

(via truthofgod)



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May 20

Borrowing

It’s interesting how many religions can claim, on one hand, to contain the one true truth, etc: while simultaneously being composed of an incredible amalgamation of individual stories from so many cultures: some real, some mythical. 
I’ve heard some claim that this proves the truth of the claims: for example, in science, corroboration shows that something is likely to be correct: but the problem here, is that there is no scientific methodology involved in how these tales are passed on: it’s based solely on literature. It’s not corroboration: it’s plagiarism. 
The only claim I’ve seen that stands up to a vague scrutiny, is that whatever God is proposed tried to give people the true story of the world, and essentially failed, only segments being passed on: a claim that falls completely once the idea of an omniscient God is involved. 

Now, a quick examination of the most interesting borrowed stories in religion. I try not to dwell on the clichéd subjects, so I’ll try to mention only the more interesting. 

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May 19

rockoman100:

Complexity does not require a creator. It requires time.



May 18

gods-advocate asked: Referring to the "Simple Summation" page, how do you know that God did not create things differently?

Well, the fact things are created like this suggests that they’re not happening differently. 
Even if you involve a multiverse, it doesn’t change the events in this universe: unless this universe completely embodies God’s will then God has inescapably defied his own will: an impossibility. 


“Anti-Christian worldviews habitually borrow from the Christian worldview to find a basis to criticize it.”

Randy Alcorn (via gods-advocate)

Mostly because it’s incredibly difficult to criticize something without mentioning it…


May 14

William Lane Craig: Five Arguments

You’ve probably heard of WLC: Christian apologist, expert debater, no question; yet his most effective point is the manner in which he delivers the arguments. Note that: not the arguments themselves, just the way in which they’re delivered. 
Why is that important? Well, take the Transcendental Argument for an example; an argument for God that’s difficult to refute for the simple fact there’s nothing there to refute. It’s essentially the conclusion stated in amongst a little smokescreen, with no reasons; and yet you’re expected to disprove those non-existent reasons. 
WLC could deliver this argument, and make it sound convincing: just because of his style of speech and expression. He’s a good debater, there’s no question about that, but the arguments themselves? 
There are five used in a specific document of his, including his favourite, Kalam. None of them are at all convincing. Discussed here. 

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May 13
The general response is ‘Because God is good’, with some (rather bad) justification thrown in, like God as the Creator being allowed to do whatever it wants with its creation: which fails by the simple fact that it is wrong to torture intelligent beings, and no matter how superior you may be to them, that does not give you free reign to do whatever you want with them. Yet, despite evidence to the contrary, the response is ‘because God is good’,  and the defence of that statement? ‘Because God must be good,’ and why? ‘Because God is good’: a purely circular argument, And yet, quite clearly: God is not. 

The general response is ‘Because God is good’, with some (rather bad) justification thrown in, like God as the Creator being allowed to do whatever it wants with its creation: which fails by the simple fact that it is wrong to torture intelligent beings, and no matter how superior you may be to them, that does not give you free reign to do whatever you want with them. 
Yet, despite evidence to the contrary, the response is ‘because God is good’,  and the defence of that statement? ‘Because God must be good,’ and why? ‘Because God is good’: a purely circular argument, And yet, quite clearly: God is not


May 12
You can trust biologists, physicists, and indeed all scientists (not pseudo-scientists), because, guess what? They give evidence, and reasons for what they say. They actually give a reason why you should listen to them, and accept what they say: and those who give no evidence are generally dismissed almost immediately. Oh, and it works.  
Atheist logic is logic. 

You can trust biologists, physicists, and indeed all scientists (not pseudo-scientists), because, guess what? They give evidence, and reasons for what they say. They actually give a reason why you should listen to them, and accept what they say: and those who give no evidence are generally dismissed almost immediately. 
Oh, and it works.  

Atheist logic is logic


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